oh sorry nic didnt see ur previous post. um haha im stretching with plastic black straight tapers, and leave them in as the jewleryyy. :s
i remember going to a website, and the girls were saying how messed i was doing it the way i did my stretching, how i should feel no pain whatsoever only pressure, and if there was any blood or pain, i was doing it wrong. they got soo pissed at me.